NATO’s Future: Enlarged and More European?

FIX: Oh, welcome, ladies and gentlemen. I hope you enjoyed your lunch.

So thank you very much for joining us onsite and for joining us online for this CFR meeting on “NATO’s Future,” of course, on the occasion of the upcoming NATO summit in Washington, D.C. We will have two panels today and we’re going to discuss the likely outcomes of the meetings as far as we already can preview those, and we are also going to discuss how can we future-proof the alliance and will this be a(n) enlarged and a more European NATO in the future.

So I’m more than delighted to have Ambassador Michael Carpenter with me today. He is special assistant to the president and senior director for Europe at the National Security Council. He was also the U.S. ambassador to the OSCE—to the Organization for Cooperation and Security in Europe—in Vienna, in beautiful Vienna, but at a time—a crucial time for transatlantic unity in the runup and during Russia’s war against Ukraine.

My name is Liana Fix. I’m a fellow for Europe here at the Council. I will be presiding over this event.

Let me remind you that this is not for attribution. And since...

KUPCHAN: Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Charlie Kupchan. I’m a fellow here at CFR. And we’re going to proceed with the second portion of our Council session on NATO and the upcoming summit.

And for this session we have Emma Ashford from the Reimagining U.S. Grand Strategy Project at the Stimson Center.

Joining us from Paris, I presume, is Camille Grand. And welcome, Camille. Nice to see you. Camille, former assistant secretary-general at NATO, currently with the European Council on Foreign Relations.

And then to my far left is Tom Wright. Tom is currently special assistant to the president and senior director for strategic planning at the National Security Council.

Thanks to all of you for joining. As Liana said at the beginning of the first session, we are on the record. C-SPAN is here. Welcome, C-SPAN viewers. And we’re going to get going. We’ll talk for about thirty minutes or so among the panelists and then open it up to all of you.

Let me begin by picking up on a question that in some ways ended our first session with Mike Carpenter and that Anders, who’s sitting in the—still in the room, really opened. And that is,...