The Need for New Cyber Thinking: A Conversation with Beau Woods

Play Button Pause Button
0:00 0:00
Episode Guests
  • Micah Zenko
    Senior Fellow

Show Notes

I spoke with the brilliant Beau Woods, security researcher, deputy director of the cyber statecraft initiative at the Atlantic Council, and founder of Stratigos Security. Woods is also the co-founder of the I Am the Calvary initiative, which was inspired by the realization that, as our dependence on technology grows, efforts to protect ourselves lag. We talk about how Woods is working to overcome the gap not just between policymakers and technical experts, but also among professionals with different backgrounds who work on cyber policy—those in the business world, in legal professions, and in the military, for example.

We also discuss the opportunities and vulnerabilities inherent in the internet of things, the challenges of disclosing cyber vulnerabilities, and whether current deterrence models apply to cyber attacks. Woods shares his thoughts on the state of the information security field today, and offers his advice for the next generation. Listen to my conversation with one of the most thoughtful people working on cyber policy, and follow Woods @beauwoods.

Listen to the podcast on SoundCloud »


Senior Fellow Micah Zenko speaks with Temple University Assistant Professor of Political Science Alexandra Guisinger about her new book, American Opinion on Trade: Preferences Without Politics, and how gender and race affect support for trade protection.

Middle East and North Africa

Zenko is joined by Steven A. Cook, CFR's Eni Enrico Mattei senior fellow for Middle East and Africa studies. They discuss Cook's latest book, False Dawn: Protest, Democracy, and Violence in the New Middle East, and U.S. policy in the Middle East and North Africa.

Top Stories on CFR

United States

Progress on President Biden’s climate agenda will slow with a split Congress. But with federal efforts dulled, state-level action could supply added momentum.

International Organizations

The 2022 FIFA World Cup has kicked off in Qatar, and billions of fans worldwide are tuning in to the world’s most popular live event. And yet as in years past, the Qatar Cup is transpiring under the shadow of controversy.

Middle East and North Africa

The kafala system regulates the lives of tens of millions of migrant laborers in the Middle East, but growing outrage over human rights abuses, racism, and gender discrimination has fueled calls for reform.